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Democratic Strategy Sets Republican Hair on Fire

Posted by politicalpartypooper on March 17, 2010

Last week, Republicans were crying “foul” over the Democrats plan to use Budget Reconciliation to finalize its health care reform bill.  As of yesterday, all Republicans want for Christmas is an up or down vote.  That’s because of rumors that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering a  parliamentary procedure known as “Deeming”.

Congress can vote on a Senate Sidecar resolution (in this case, a fix to the HCR bill that is acceptable to House Democrats) which would require an up or down vote, and in doing so, “deem” the first Senate bill to have “passed”, or already become law.  Wikipedia defines it as:

A self-executing rule is a procedural measure used by the U. S. House of Representatives to consider or approve legislation. The procedure can be included in rules adopted by the House Rules Committee to proposed modifications or amendments to a specific bill. When the full House votes to approve a self-executing rule it also simultaneously agrees to dispose of a separate matter, which is specified in the rule itself. For example, modifications or amendments can be approved while underlying bill is approved at the same time.

In essence, it ends up being one vote for two issues, the original Senate version and then the fixed version at the same moment.  Very confusing.  Very “tricksy”.  So tricksy, in fact, that Republican House Speakers Gingrich and Hastert used it 192 times between 1995 and 2007.  And that makes Democrats’ use of it unfair and underhanded trickery.  But that’s not what is most interesting about this whole thing.

Last week, Republicans were beside themselves over Democratic “trickery” in trying to pass the HCR bill using Reconciliation in the Senate.  Boehner, McConnell, Cantor and others all demanded that the Senate needed to debate the issue and would require sixty votes to end debate and move toward a floor vote on the revised HCR Bill; that an up or down vote is not the way a democracy works.  This week, all they can dream of is an up or down vote in the House.  Hmmm.

Me thinks someone is playing around with Republican heads…and it’s working.  It’s almost as if Democrats said, “If you thought Reconciliation in the Senate was bad, wait until you see how we use Deem and Pass in the House”.  And Republicans have fallen for it, hook, line, and sinker.

At issue in the House is a Senate Bill full of special interest money, like the sickening “Cornhusker Kickback” that Ben Nelson of Nebraska negotiated.  House Democrats are opposed to these deals, and many do not want to be associated with passing a bill that includes them.  Thus, they arrived at Deeming the Senate Bill passed so they could do an up or down vote on the fix.  Tricksy, indeed.

If I were in the White House, I would be claiming this idea as my own, just to take credit for sending Republicans once again into a state of rapturous frenzy.  It’s absolute genius!  Republicans actually said the words “we want an up or down vote on health care reform”, exactly the same words President Obama has been using for weeks.  In one deft move, Republicans now agree with President Obama!  You can’t write this stuff into a movie any better than it is playing out in Washington.  Which more than likely means it was done by accident, because no one in Washington is smart enough to play the game this way, right?  Or are they?

Is someone in the White House pulling Republican strings like a puppeteer?  Is there an actual strategy to get the GOP to react in outrage at least once a week?  Is this planned?

If I were President it would be.  Anything that makes my generation’s Republicans whine like spoiled brats is definitely something that needs to be implemented.  Consider the fact that since the beginning of 2010, Republicans have done nothing but retreat and react.  Their only response to each day’s issue is outrage, and the more they are portrayed in this light, the weaker they seem to the American people.  Fitting accommodations for a political party whose only objective between 2008 and 2010 was to win back the House and Senate, no matter the consequences to the American people.

I can’t state strongly enough how the Republicans are getting what they deserve.  The Democrats have grown a pair of Republican balls, using every one of the parliamentary  “tricks” that Republicans repeatedly used when they were in control of the House, and Republicans don’t like it one bit.  Why should they?  All they can do is whine about it, and watch as the bill passes, the American people become accustomed to it, and slowly, Republican plans for a takeover in 2010 disappear.

You see, there is justice in Washington after all.  If your political party has decided that the only thing they will work for is to defeat their opponents at the polls, that the American people are secondary to Republican dominance of government, then, when you lose at your own game, all that is left to you is the whining.

My oh my, are we hearing the whining in Washington today?!  Someone is doing something right; you know it because Republican hair is on fire, and any day we get to see that is a good day.  Flame on, Republicans!  Maybe next time you are in control of the House, you’ll actually do something, go to work, pass legislation that helps Americans instead of standing on your soap boxes lying about how Christian you are.

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15 Responses to “Democratic Strategy Sets Republican Hair on Fire”

  1. Tony Montana said

    So let me get this straight, the Democrats are ethically in the right for their strategy to pass the health care reform bill?

    If health-care reform as proposed were so good for the nation, why wouldn’t legislators prefer to run on rather than away from that record (using “deem and pass”)? If you can’t run on the strength of the laws you pass, then either you shouldn’t be running or you shouldn’t be passing. (Quote from Kathleen Parker)

    Yet, now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering ways to allow House members to pass the Senate bill without actually voting for it so that vulnerable Democrats can deny responsibility for a bill they don’t like and don’t support. Is this sane?

    No its not sane. The majority of citizens oppose health care reform. We elect Congressmen to represent our needs in the scripture of policy. This deem and pass on a bill that is not wanted by the majoirty is reason enough for me to join the Tea Party.The reason for the up and down vote is for John Q Public to identify who the fuck pushed our country into the unrecoverable debt for the next two years.

    • politicalpartypooper said

      Tony,

      They are still voting on the bill. They are just voting on both at once; because they do not trust the Senate to fix what needs to be fixed, so this compromise between the Houses has been worked out.

      I think Republicans are just pissed because somehow, they have been “hoodwinked” into agreeing with President Obama that HCR deserves an up or down vote, which is what Republicans are asking for now, and screaming against last week. How did that happen?

  2. Fried Green Tomatoes said

    Here is an interesting tidbit from a poll of health care providers and reported by the New England Journal of Medicine:

    Will passage of this bill in its current form annihilate the supply of physicians? Hard to get FREE health care when there are no doctors to provide it.

    Survey Reveals Potential Impact of Health Reform on Physician Supply

    What if nearly HALF of all physicians in America suddenly stopped practicing medicine? Such a drastic decrease in the physician workforce could become a reality, depending upon how the healthcare reform legislation is implemented, and which version of health reform passes into law.

    In a physician survey conducted December 2009 by The Medicus Firm, a national physician search firm, 24.7% of physicians stated that they would “retire early” if a public option is implemented, and an additional 21.0% of respondents stated that they would quit practicing medicine, even though they are nowhere near retirement. This brings the amount of physicians who would leave medicine to a total of 45.7%.

    Interestingly, the numbers were not as dramatic, but still troubling, if the public option is not part of the equation. If health reform passes without the public option, 7.4% of physicians stated that they would quit practicing medicine, unless they were nearing retirement, in which case 21.8% said they would retire early, bringing the total loss of physician workforce to nearly one-third of physicians leaving medicine.

    “What many people may not realize is that health reform could impact physician supply in such a way that the quality of healthcare could suffer,” states Jim Stone, Managing Partner at The Medicus Firm’s Dallas office. “Based on the physicians’ responses to the survey, health reform could significantly intensify the effects of the physician shortage. Depending upon which version of the health reform bill passes, the reality is that there may not be enough doctors to provide quality medical care to all of these newly insured people.”

    Over 50% of physicians who responded predict that a health reform would cause the quality of medical care to deteriorate in America. When asked how health reform could affect the quality of medical care, 40.7% stated it would “decline or worsen somewhat,” while another 14.4% stated that the quality of medical care would “decline or worsen dramatically”. If a public option is implemented as part of health reform, 64.1% of physicians predict that the quality of medical care in general will decline.

    “Many physicians feel that they cannot continue to practice if patient loads increase while pay decreases. The overwhelming prediction from physicians is that health reform, if implemented inappropriately, could create a detrimental combination of circumstances, and result in an environment in which it is not possible for most physicians to continue practicing medicine,” states Kevin Perpetua, Managing Partner for The Medicus Firm’s Atlanta division. “With an average debt of $140,000, and many graduates approaching a quarter of a million dollars in school loans, being a doctor is becoming less and less feasible. Health reform, and increasing government control of medicine may be the final straw that causes the physician workforce to break down.”

    • politicalpartypooper said

      What’s needed is more incentives for students to study medicine, more help in footing the expensive tuition. As for doctors leaving, few will. Most say it was never about the money; time to put their money where their mouth is. Physicians are still amongst the highest paid Americans. The only need here is to train more doctors.

      • Fried Green Tomatoes said

        “Most say it was never about the money; time to put their money where their mouth is”

        A few questions for you:

        1. How old were you when you had children?
        2. How old were you when you bought your first home?
        3. Last time you woke up at 2 am for a life and death emergency?

        Kids coming our of medical school today are in debt until they are in their midforties. Most do not start a family until they are in their late thirties and early forties.

        Will you do my taxes this year for free?

  3. Fried Green Tomatoes said

    What’s this? Michael Moore turning his nose up against the current reform bill?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-17/the-pure-greed-of-obamas-phony-health-care-reform/full/

  4. Fried Green Tomatoes said

    If the general public was aware of the full content of ObamaCare like on page 354 Sec 1177: The government will restrict enrollment of “special needs people” how about page 50 Section 152: HC will be provided to all non-us citizens. It’ gets better page 59 lines 21-24: Government will have direct access to bank accounts for elective funds transfer. Still love it what about this cravat page 91 lines 4-7.

    • politicalpartypooper said

      FGT,
      Yeah, you’re right. The Feds are going to break into your bank account and steal your money, give free healthcare to Ethiopians, and kill retarded people.

      Here’s where I call your bullshit. I have a copy of the bill in PDF format on my computer. None of what you cited is in it.

  5. Fried Green Tomatoes said

    Hey Poops….where the hell are you?

  6. Fried Green Tomatoes said

    maybe you are donating your time by volunteering at the food kitchen?
    packing your bags to join the peace corps and serve in a third world country?
    hmmmm…opening your house to the homeless?
    giving your savings to the poorest family in your town so thay have the same as you?

    or maybe polishing that 95 Mustang that sits in your garage. must be niceto be able to afford a toy car. I drive a used Ford Escape that I bought from Car Max with 50 K miles.

  7. js said

    PPP, I believe you are correct. The whole point of the “deem and pass” is to be able to pass the fix-it reconciliation bill and the Senate HCR bill at the same time to end any worry about violating reconciliation rules. A pretty good trick, and it is exactly what you say it is: voting on two bills in one. Plus, some Republicans are exposed as hypocrites in the process. But the one missing piece in the puzzle was Pelosi coming out of the blue and saying that (paraphrased) well some Democrats don’t want to vote for the bill, so we’re doing this deem and pass business. Why would Pelosi come out and say that? Wouldn’t it be easier to say that the Senate bill has to be law for it to be amended? Your analysis finishes the puzzle–Pelosi intentionally said it so that Republicans go into a tizzy complaining about parliamentary procedure. Nobody who isn’t a political junkie has ever ever ever cared about parliamentary procedure. Democrats are talking about the good things in the bill.

    So yeah, I think you’re right.

  8. The Rotten Tomato said

    How to Provide Healthcare to the Uninsured.

    Create the Medical Corps, similar in design and mission as the Peace Corps.

    Step 1: Offer competitive students accepted to medical school the opportunity to have their tuition paid for completely as well as a stipend during residency training that permits them to have an affordable lifestyle that is equivalent to their non-medical professional peers, i.e. lawyers. In exchange the student makes a comittment to perform their residency and continue as an attending in their given specialty at a Medical Corps Hospital (details below). They would have to spend a minimum of 10 years after training in the Medical Corps. They would receive a salary that is 80-90% of the MMA standard, similar to what the VA offers, as well as the opportunity to invest in federal retirement programs, etc.

    Step 2: Use the VA Hospital System as the infrastructure for the US Medical Corps, with expansion of facilities and resiurces to accomodate more women and children. With more personnel and money invested the level of care that the vets receive will improve as well.

  9. Speaking of their hair. . .
    I FINALLY figured them out. They are make-overs from the Howdy Doody Show. The give-away was John Boner’s hair.

    Take a look: http://christianliberal.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/howdy-doody-redux-republicans/

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